>> i get along with rand paul but this is silly. he obviously doesn't have much respect for the intelligence of his audience in if he doesn't think that people can't see through that. we have 11 million people in the country give or take some number who are here without documentation, and we need to find a way to keep them here. everybody is committed to doing that so to worry about what you call it is kind of beside the point. if you're going to allow people here they're going to become citizens one way or another. >> michael: it seems to me congressman that rand paul is thinking solely about 2016, he's just forward thinking about himself. he said he hasn't decided if he's going to run for president. do you think he will? it's a gut question, do you think he has a shot at the nomination, and then at the presidency if he does run? >> well, i think he will run. i think it is highly unlikely that they would be the nominee of the party but certainly if he were the nominee of the party he would give the american people a very clear choi